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Mirror, Mirror on the Wall - 2010 Annual Sessions Costs

2009 Yearly Meeting Costs

Which Quaker Yearly Meeting - is the ELITIST of them all?

Once again in 2010 -

New York Yearly Meeting (NYYM) of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) heads the list with the most expensive and longest annual sessions. The cost data below Friends, make up a very clear mirror.

What, with most New York Friends ensconced in canoeing, kayaking, swimming and kum-bah-yah moments of self-discovery at Boathouse meditations at the thinly-disguised cheap vacation at Lake George, who cares about costs - as long as someone else is paying for it? And believe me, there is also a dance at this junket - the dance around getting others to pay for the tab.

Can we guess that the same-old select small circle of New York Friends still mismanage Quakerism in a hypocritical hierarchical church government in this part of the world? Does this false top-down governance model drain the resources of time and money out of the grass roots Monthly Meetings? (Has the top-down church tax model that NYYM used during its current 35+ year membership decline, changed back to a bottom-up financing model yet?)

Possibly, paid for life and emotionally rewarded NYYM ministers feel more important amongst a dwindling more easily defined group? Isn't a certainly dwindling group easier to manage and predict than a uncertain growing group? Isn't it interesting also that this dwindling group of NYYM Friends somehow also continues to raise its budget every year and seeks other people's or dead Friends money to pay for and otherwise enable their padded budgets and lifetime paid pulpits?

The New York elite hold annual sessions (and most committee meetings) at a faraway location (Silver Bay on Lake George in the Adirondacks) where few can attend, and set or refuse to ask for fairer prices at a point that most can’t afford. The elite fix the scope of business where time, (7 days at this remote location), talent and money flow into the dying central hierarchy from the few remaining far flung New York Friends. Could one guess that these elite fail to ask for competitive prices with the management of the retreat center at Lake George?

The cost data (below) of attending these sessions bear this out compared with similar sized and located Quaker Yearly Meetings. Why of course, there are denigrating and irresponsibility enabling scholarships for those highly educated souls who can't afford this boondoggle and don't want to grow up. If poor Friends can't afford this annual shindig, we can guess they can’t either afford to give their own local congregation the 300-400 dollars a year it requests to hold together a local community?

Just like a corporate annual meeting – the agenda at the beautiful NYYM Annual Sessions is pretty much pre-approved and messages and potential criticism are tightly controlled by controlling who can attend – with high prices, with the faraway distance, with space for very few to be accommodated in the middle-of-nowhere, and with the following thinly-veiled threat/reminder on the NYYM website:

…..No one should go to the NYYM Silver Bay YMCA without an advance registration with New York Yearly Meeting and assurance from SilverBay that there is room for you.

In other words to the unconnected:

KEEP OUT !

And remember that posted prices on the registration form are subject to an additional 5% gratuity, for the gratuitous elitism and fine dining that await you.

Rest assured, though – thee will get a dose of the real world with the perennial cooking of the books in the Financial Services Committee and General Services Section - to support misappropriation to perennial, unaccountable, lifetime employees who have no time and task specific job descriptions.

The sumptuous food presentation at Silver Bay is balanced out with equally and oppositely disgusting NYYM poor governance and shady business practices. That is: for those very few Friends who forgo swimming and boating to actually go to the difficult committee and general business meetings.

Are other Yearly Meetings following New York’s lead ? Let’s hope not.

In Friendship,

Glenn R.

Summary of changes since 2009

NYYM has raised prices 2-3% over last year's far and away highest prices of all Yearly Meeting Annual Sessions. Question 1: Why has NYYM not found a more centrally located less expensive college campus for its annual sessions with higher capacity and then reduce prices so there can be more full participation? (Answer: Because elitists don't want more full participation.) Question 2: Why won't NYYM reduce the amount of business it transacts to fewer days? (Answer: Because elitists want more time focused on them, and Lake George is too expensive and too far away from 95% of NYYM Friends to go for a short time.) Go back to Question 1 and repeat, over and over.

New York YM gives a relative price break to teenagers, (compared with Baltimore and New England) no doubt to indoctrinate them into the centralized religious hierarchy and the benefits of elitism. NYYM does keep costs high for younger children (too young to be indoctrinated). NYYM also spends $25,000 of its deficit budget taken out of the hides of its Monthly Meetings to pay teenagers excessively to babysit youngsters - de facto giving them a free pass to attend Annual Sessions / vacation one week per year.

Northwest Yearly Meeting (EFI) and North Carolina (Conservative) raised prices for adults for 5 day meetings substantially, however their prices were so low that this is almost meaningless in comparison with East Coast 6 and 7 day Meetings.

New England raised prices 3-8% but still has a 5 night annual sessions which reduces cost to members (compared with 6 nights at Baltimore, New York).

Baltimore did not raise prices. Congratulations to Baltimore Friends. Can Friends make that 5 nights, then 4 then 3 then 2 nights eventually? What business do Monthly Meetings have to do in 6 nights and 7 days, Baltimore and New York?

North Pacific (Independent) (held in Missoula, MT) raised prices steeply, especially for children, however prices last year were very low, and camping or commuting is still pretty reasonable.



Seven Yearly Meetings












2010 Annual Sessions Costs per night












early registration / including meals













late registration = July 1 or later





























4 Nights
4 Nights
4 Nights
5 Nights
5 Nights
6 Nights
6 Nights








NCYM©
NPYM
NWYM
PacificYM
NEYM
BaltYM
NYYM*












$
$
$






Additional Gratuity*
-
-
-
-
-
-
5%






Average Registration Fee**

25.00
0.00
25.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
40.00






Adult/Double***
51.00
69.00
58.00
90.00
87.00
79.00
111.00






Child/Double****
51.00
57.00
36.00
40.00
46.00
43.00
79.00






Child/Floor/camp*****
10.00
37.00
-
-
27.00
27.00
55.00





















Adult/Camp/Commute
17.00
44.00
20.00
40.00
75.00
75.00
63.00






Teen / Double

51.00
62.00
-
45.00
87.00
79.00
79.00





















* NYYM prices include a forced 5% gratuity upon registration











** NEYM has implemented late registration ($20) in 2009












** BaltYM implemented late registration cost increase (+14%) in 2009











*** NYYM weighted average with number of rooms below












**** NEYM and BYM have a child (age 7-13) on floor/camper rate











***** NYYM closest campgrounds are +10 miles away, now added - a lean-to across and over the hill - good luck!







…..No one should go to the NYYM Silver Bay YMCA without an advance registration with New York Yearly Meeting and assurance from SilverBay that there is room for you.














































Adult


Capacity

Cost per

Child


Capacity
Cost per



Dbl. Occ.

Hall
Persons

Night

Dbl. Occ.

Hall
Persons
Night


















853.00

Trinity
12
10,236
$142.17

673.00

Trinity
12
$112.17



792.00

Brookside
12
9,504
$132.00

612.00

Brookside
12
$102.00



727.00

Bayview
81
58,887
$121.17

547.00

Bayview
81
$91.17



668.00

The Inn
296
197,728
$111.33

488.00

The Inn
296
$81.33



602.00

Paine
51
30,702
$100.33

422.00

Paine
51
$70.33



554.00

Hemlock
72
39,888
$92.33

374.00

Hemlock
72
$62.33



498.00

Hepbron
110
54,780
$83.00

318.00

Hepbron
110
$53.00



523.00

Hillcrest
17
8,891
$87.17

343.00

Hillcrest
17
$57.17



















NYYM Avg. Cost / adult


$630.75
$105.12


NYYM Avg. Cost / child

$75.12




NYYM Total Capacity

651




NYYM Total Capacity

651



















5 out of 5 of all Adult NYYM attenders











spendmore than NEYM and BaltYM attenders
























3 out of 3 of all Youth NYYM attenders











spend more than NEYM and BaltYM attenders










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